Lustful Ultra-Tender Baked Chicken Delight

Golden brown oven-baked whole chicken with crispy seasoned skin

Juicy oven-baked chicken with beautifully browned, seasoned skin.

Lustful Ultra-Tender Baked Chicken Delight

There is baked chicken.

And then there is the kind of baked chicken that makes you stop talking for a second after the first bite.

The skin is deeply seasoned.

The outside is beautifully browned.

The juices collect at the bottom of the baking dish.

The meat pulls apart easily.

And when you cut into the thickest part, it is still moist instead of dry and stringy.

That is the kind of baked chicken this recipe is aiming for.

The name may sound dramatic, but the idea is simple: make baked chicken so tender, juicy, aromatic, and satisfying that it feels almost excessive.

The secret is not drowning the chicken in sauce.

It is seasoning properly, giving the meat enough time to absorb flavor, baking it at the right temperature, protecting it from drying out, and knowing when to stop cooking.

Here is how I make an ultra-tender baked chicken that stays juicy inside while still developing a rich, flavorful exterior.

1. Start With Good Chicken

You cannot completely fix poor-quality meat with seasoning.

Choose chicken that looks fresh and has been stored properly.

If using bone-in thighs, drumsticks, leg quarters, or a whole cut-up chicken, these pieces are particularly forgiving because dark meat naturally contains more fat and connective tissue.

Chicken breast can still work, but it requires more careful timing because it dries out much faster.

For the easiest ultra-tender result, thighs and drumsticks are difficult to beat.

2. Pat the Chicken Dry

Before seasoning, pat the chicken with paper towels.

Excess surface moisture can dilute seasoning and interfere with browning.

You do not need the meat bone-dry.

Just remove obvious water from the surface.

This gives the seasoning something better to cling to.

3. Do Not Wash Raw Chicken in the Sink

Rinsing raw chicken under running water can splash bacteria onto the sink, countertop, nearby dishes, and other surfaces.

Cooking the chicken thoroughly is what makes it safe.

If there are unwanted juices in the package, drain them carefully and pat the chicken dry.

Then wash your hands and clean any surfaces that contacted the raw meat.

4. Season More Than Just the Top

One reason baked chicken can taste bland is that the seasoning sits only on the visible surface.

Season every side.

Lift pieces.

Turn them over.

Rub seasoning into folds and around joints.

If the chicken has skin, carefully get some seasoning underneath the skin where practical without tearing it excessively.

That puts flavor closer to the meat itself.

5. Salt Is Essential

Salt does far more than make chicken taste salty.

It enhances the meat’s natural flavor and helps every other seasoning become more noticeable.

Use enough to season the meat properly, but remember that packaged seasonings, stock powders, soy sauce, and other ingredients may already contain substantial sodium.

Taste your seasoning mixtures when appropriate and avoid stacking several heavily salted products without thinking.

6. Add Black Pepper

Freshly ground black pepper adds warmth and a mild bite.

It works with practically every baked chicken seasoning profile.

Use it generously enough to matter but not so heavily that it dominates the chicken.

7. Garlic Makes Baked Chicken Better

Garlic can be used fresh, powdered, or both.

Fresh garlic gives sharper aroma and deeper character.

Garlic powder distributes more evenly over the surface.

Using a little of each can work beautifully.

Just avoid leaving large pieces of fresh garlic exposed on the very top if they are likely to burn before the chicken finishes cooking.

8. Onion Adds Sweetness

Fresh onion can create incredible flavor at the bottom of the baking dish.

Slice or chop it and place it around or underneath the chicken.

As the chicken releases juices, the onions soften and absorb the seasoned drippings.

They can practically become part of the sauce.

Onion powder can also be used in the dry seasoning for more even coverage.

9. Fresh Thyme Is Worth Using

A few sprigs of thyme can transform the aroma of the entire dish.

Rub some leaves directly onto the chicken and place a few sprigs in the pan.

As everything bakes, the thyme perfumes the juices.

If you only have dried thyme, use it more sparingly because the flavor is concentrated.

10. Scallion Adds Fresh Savory Flavor

Chopped scallion works especially well in a Jamaican-style baked chicken seasoning.

Use the white and green portions.

Rub some onto the meat and scatter a little into the pan.

Scallion softens during baking and blends into the juices.

11. Ginger Can Add Warmth

Fresh ginger gives baked chicken a slightly sharper, fresher background flavor.

Grate or mince a small amount and work it into the seasoning.

Do not add so much that the dish tastes like ginger chicken unless that is your intention.

12. Scotch Bonnet Can Add Heat and Aroma

A little Scotch bonnet can make the chicken unforgettable.

For more aroma and controlled heat, use a small piece.

For serious heat, chop more of it and include the seeds.

Wear gloves if needed and avoid touching your face.

Scotch bonnet is powerful.

13. Paprika Helps With Color

Paprika can deepen the color of the baked chicken and add mild flavor.

Smoked paprika creates a different effect and can make oven-baked chicken taste more roasted.

Use whichever profile fits the rest of your seasoning.

14. Allspice Adds Jamaican Depth

Ground allspice, also called pimento, can add warm spice notes.

Use a small amount.

It is strong and should sit in the background rather than make the chicken taste like dessert.

15. A Little Curry Powder Can Work

This is not necessarily curry chicken.

But a small amount of curry powder can add complexity to baked chicken.

Use it lightly if you want just a hint.

If you want a full curry flavor, that becomes a different dish.

16. Don’t Use Every Seasoning in the Cabinet

More seasoning does not automatically mean better chicken.

Choose a flavor direction.

Salt.

Pepper.

Garlic.

Onion.

Thyme.

Scallion.

A little heat.

That can already be excellent.

If you add curry powder, jerk seasoning, barbecue seasoning, Cajun seasoning, soy sauce, stock powder, and every herb you own, the flavors can become muddy.

17. Add a Little Oil

A small amount of oil helps seasoning coat the chicken and assists with browning.

You do not need to pour oil over the pan.

Chicken, especially skin-on dark meat, will release its own fat as it cooks.

A light coating is enough.

18. Butter Can Make the Flavor Richer

A small amount of butter in the baking dish can add richness to the pan juices.

It is not essential.

If the chicken is already very fatty, you may not need it.

But for certain preparations, a few small pieces of butter tucked around the dish can be delicious.

19. Acid Can Brighten the Seasoning

A little lime or lemon juice can add brightness.

Use it carefully.

Too much acid or very long marinating times can alter the surface texture of the meat.

You want flavor, not chicken that feels chemically cooked before it reaches the oven.

20. Soy Sauce Can Add Deep Savory Flavor

A small amount of soy sauce can contribute color, saltiness, and umami.

Because it is salty, reduce other salty seasonings accordingly.

Dark soy sauce can also deepen the color quickly.

Use it for flavor, not just to make the chicken look brown.

21. Worcestershire Sauce Can Work Too

A little Worcestershire sauce can add complexity.

It works especially well with garlic, thyme, black pepper, and onion.

Again, use it as one supporting ingredient rather than pouring in so much that its flavor dominates.

22. Let the Chicken Marinate

Seasoning immediately before baking can still make good chicken.

But letting the chicken rest gives salt and aromatics more time to work.

Cover the seasoned chicken and refrigerate it.

Even a few hours can make a noticeable difference.

Overnight can be excellent depending on the marinade.

23. Always Marinate Chicken in the Refrigerator

Do not leave raw chicken marinating on the kitchen counter.

Keep it refrigerated.

Cold temperatures slow bacterial growth.

Take it out only when you are ready to prepare it for the oven.

24. Do Not Reuse Raw Chicken Marinade as Sauce Without Cooking It

Any marinade that has contacted raw chicken must be treated as contaminated.

If you want extra sauce, reserve a clean portion before adding the chicken.

If you intend to use the used marinade, it must be cooked thoroughly according to food-safety guidance.

Never spoon raw marinade over finished chicken.

25. Bring the Baking Dish Together Before the Chicken Goes In

A good baking dish can contain more than meat.

Add sliced onions.

Scallion.

Garlic.

Thyme.

A little water or broth if the recipe needs moisture.

These ingredients create a flavorful bed underneath the chicken.

26. Don’t Add Too Much Liquid

If the chicken is submerged, you are moving toward braising or stewing rather than roasting.

That can still produce tender meat, but the skin and surface will not brown the same way.

For baked chicken with a browned exterior, use just enough liquid to create moisture and sauce at the bottom.

27. A Little Broth Can Help

Chicken broth can prevent the bottom of the dish from drying out and add flavor.

Use a modest amount.

The chicken will release additional juices.

You may be surprised by how much liquid appears during baking.

28. Water Works Fine

Plain water can also be used.

Seasoning, onions, garlic, and chicken drippings will turn it into flavorful pan juices as the meat cooks.

You do not always need stock.

29. Coconut Milk Can Make It Richer

For a more luxurious Caribbean direction, add a small amount of coconut milk to the pan.

It blends beautifully with thyme, scallion, garlic, and pepper.

Use enough to influence the sauce without drowning the chicken.

30. Use a Baking Dish That Fits the Chicken

A pan that is too large may allow juices to spread thinly and burn.

A pan that is too crowded can trap excessive steam and limit browning.

Arrange the pieces in a single layer with a little space where possible.

They should look comfortable, not lost or crushed together.

31. Put Skin Side Up

For skin-on chicken, bake with the skin facing upward.

This exposes it to dry oven heat and gives it a better chance to brown.

If the skin sits submerged in liquid, it will remain soft.

32. Season Under the Skin

For especially flavorful chicken, gently loosen the skin from the meat on larger pieces and place some seasoning underneath.

Be careful not to tear the skin completely away.

This brings garlic, herbs, salt, and spices directly against the meat.

33. Do Not Stuff Large Clumps of Raw Garlic Under Thin Skin

Large garlic chunks can cook unevenly and may create harsh pockets.

Finely mince the garlic or mix it into a paste with the other seasonings.

Spread it evenly.

34. Preheat the Oven

Put the chicken into a properly preheated oven.

Predictable heat gives more consistent results.

If your oven runs hot or cool, an inexpensive oven thermometer can help you understand what is actually happening inside.

35. Moderate Heat Gives You Control

Extremely high oven temperatures can brown the outside quickly while leaving thick pieces undercooked.

Moderate roasting temperatures give the meat more time to cook through evenly.

You can always increase heat near the end if you need more browning.

36. Covering at the Beginning Can Help Tenderness

For very tender chicken, you can cover the dish during the first portion of baking.

The trapped steam helps the meat cook gently and retains moisture.

Then uncover it later so the surface can brown.

This works particularly well when you want tender dark meat with flavorful pan juices.

37. Uncover for Browning

If you bake the entire time under foil, the chicken may be tender but pale.

Remove the cover toward the end.

Let the heat concentrate the sauce and brown the exterior.

Watch carefully because the transformation can happen quickly.

38. Baste With the Pan Juices

As the chicken cooks, spoon some of the juices over the pieces.

This adds flavor and keeps the surface moist.

Do not baste constantly.

Opening the oven every few minutes drops the temperature.

A couple of strategic bastes are enough.

39. Don’t Keep Opening the Oven

Let the oven work.

Constantly opening the door releases heat and extends cooking time.

Use the oven light and window if available.

Check when the chicken is approaching doneness.

40. Use a Thermometer

Color alone is not a reliable way to determine whether chicken is safely cooked.

Use an instant-read food thermometer.

Poultry should reach a safe minimum internal temperature of 165°F or 74°C in the thickest part.

Avoid touching the bone with the thermometer tip because bone temperature can give misleading readings.

41. Thighs Can Benefit From Going Beyond the Minimum

Dark meat is safe at 165°F or 74°C, but thighs and drumsticks can often become more tender at somewhat higher internal temperatures because connective tissue continues breaking down.

That is one reason dark meat is forgiving.

The goal is tender, juicy meat without cooking it into dryness.

42. Chicken Breast Needs More Care

Breast meat can become dry quickly once it exceeds its ideal doneness by too much.

Check it earlier.

If cooking breast pieces with dark meat, their different cooking times can create a challenge.

You may need to remove breast pieces first or choose similarly sized cuts.

43. Size Matters

Small drumsticks and enormous leg quarters will not finish at the same time.

Arrange similar-sized pieces together when possible.

If one piece is much larger, check it separately.

Do not assume that because one piece is cooked, every piece is cooked.

44. Bone-In Chicken Usually Takes Longer

Bones slow heat penetration.

That can be beneficial for tenderness and flavor, but it means bone-in pieces need enough time.

Check the meat near the thickest part.

45. Boneless Chicken Cooks Faster

Boneless thighs and breasts can cook surprisingly quickly.

Do not use the same timing you would use for large bone-in pieces.

A thermometer prevents guesswork.

46. Don’t Bake Chicken Until the Juices Disappear

If you continue cooking long after the meat is done, the sauce can evaporate and the chicken can dry out.

Stop when the meat is cooked and the texture is where you want it.

A little pan juice is a good thing.

47. Let the Sauce Reduce if Necessary

If the chicken is finished but the pan contains too much thin liquid, remove the chicken and reduce the sauce separately.

This prevents overcooking the meat while waiting for the sauce to thicken.

Simmer the liquid on the stovetop if the baking dish allows, or transfer it to a saucepan.

48. Skim Excess Fat

Depending on the chicken pieces, a layer of fat may collect on top of the pan juices.

A little is flavorful.

Too much can make the sauce greasy.

Skim some off before serving if necessary.

49. Make a Quick Gravy From the Pan Juices

Those drippings are valuable.

Pour them into a saucepan.

Taste.

Adjust seasoning.

Simmer to reduce.

If you want a thicker gravy, use an appropriate thickening method.

Then spoon the sauce back over the chicken.

50. Do Not Thicken With Dry Flour Thrown Directly Into Hot Sauce

Dry flour can form lumps.

If using flour, make a slurry or roux depending on the gravy style.

Cornstarch mixed with cold water is another option.

Add gradually.

You can always thicken more.

51. Taste the Sauce Before Adding Salt

The pan juices contain concentrated seasoning from the chicken.

They may already be salty.

Taste first.

Then adjust.

52. Add Fresh Scallion at the End

Fresh scallion gives the finished dish color and aroma.

Sprinkle some over the hot chicken after baking.

The contrast between cooked aromatics and fresh garnish makes the flavor feel brighter.

53. Fresh Thyme Can Finish It Too

A few fresh thyme leaves scattered over the chicken can reinforce the aroma.

Use only tender leaves, not a pile of woody stems.

54. Add Lime at the End

A small squeeze of lime over rich baked chicken can brighten the whole dish.

Do this just before serving.

A little acidity cuts through fat and makes savory flavors pop.

55. Let the Chicken Rest Before Cutting

This is one of the most important steps for juiciness.

Once the chicken leaves the oven, let it rest for several minutes.

Cutting immediately can cause more juices to run out onto the plate.

Resting gives the meat a chance to settle.

56. Cover Loosely While It Rests

If you want to keep the chicken warm, tent it loosely with foil.

Do not wrap it tightly enough to trap huge amounts of steam against crispy skin.

A light cover is enough.

57. Don’t Let It Rest for Half an Hour

A short rest is helpful.

An extremely long rest can leave dinner lukewarm.

Serve while the chicken is still hot.

58. Spoon the Pan Juices Over the Meat

Right before serving, spoon a little hot pan juice over each piece.

This adds shine, moisture, and concentrated flavor.

Don’t drown the chicken.

A little goes a long way.

59. Serve With Rice

Baked chicken and rice are natural partners.

Plain rice works.

Carrot rice works beautifully.

Rice and peas adds even more richness.

Let the pan juices soak into the rice.

60. Carrot Rice Is Especially Good With This

The slight sweetness of carrots works against the savory seasoned chicken.

The colors also look excellent together.

Add vegetables or salad and the plate becomes immediately more inviting.

61. Serve With Mashed Potatoes

If the chicken has lots of gravy, mashed potatoes are perfect.

They soak up every drop.

Add a green vegetable for contrast.

62. Serve With Roasted Potatoes

Potatoes can bake in the same oven.

If cooking them in the chicken pan, make sure their size and timing allow them to become fully cooked without forcing the chicken to overbake.

Sometimes roasting them separately gives more control.

63. Serve With Sweet Potatoes

Sweet potatoes pair beautifully with savory chicken.

Roast, mash, or boil them.

Their sweetness works well with garlic, thyme, pepper, and spice.

64. Add Fried Plantain

Sweet ripe plantain with juicy baked chicken is hard to beat.

The caramelized sweetness balances savory seasoning and Scotch bonnet heat.

65. Add a Fresh Salad

A crisp salad lightens a rich chicken dinner.

Lettuce.

Cucumber.

Tomato.

Cabbage.

Carrot.

Add whatever you enjoy.

66. Coleslaw Works Too

Cool creamy coleslaw provides excellent contrast.

It can be especially good when the chicken is spicy.

67. Steam Vegetables

Broccoli, cabbage, green beans, carrots, or callaloo can complete the plate.

Keep the vegetable seasoning simple.

Let the chicken remain the main event.

68. Use Leftovers for Sandwiches

Cold or reheated baked chicken can become excellent sandwich filling.

Remove the meat from the bones.

Slice or shred it.

Add lettuce, tomato, sauce, or slaw.

Toast the bread if you like.

69. Make a Chicken Wrap

Shred leftover meat.

Warm it gently with a little pan juice.

Add it to a wrap with fresh vegetables.

This gives the leftovers an entirely different personality.

70. Make Chicken Fried Rice

Leftover baked chicken is perfect for fried rice.

Remove the bones.

Cut the meat into bite-sized pieces.

Use properly stored chilled rice.

Add vegetables, scallion, and seasoning.

71. Add It to Pasta

Shredded baked chicken can go into creamy pasta, tomato pasta, or a simple garlic sauce.

The original seasoning brings extra flavor to the new dish.

72. Make Chicken Salad

Cold cooked chicken can be chopped and mixed with mayonnaise, herbs, vegetables, or another dressing.

Keep it refrigerated until serving.

This is a great use for breast meat leftovers.

73. Add It to Soup

Bones and leftover meat can contribute to soup.

Remove usable meat first.

The bones can be used in a properly prepared stock if desired.

Do not leave cooked chicken sitting out while you decide what to do with it.

74. Store Leftovers Promptly

Refrigerate cooked chicken within a safe period after the meal.

Do not leave it sitting on the dining table all night.

Use shallow containers where practical so food cools efficiently.

75. Keep Some Sauce With the Leftovers

Store the chicken with a little pan juice.

That protects the meat from drying and makes reheating much easier.

Dry leftover chicken is harder to revive.

76. Reheat Gently

Use the oven, stovetop, or microwave.

Add a little liquid if necessary.

Cover to trap moisture.

Heat only until the chicken is thoroughly hot.

77. Reheat to 165°F or 74°C

Leftover poultry should reach 165°F or 74°C when reheated.

Check the thickest part.

Do not rely entirely on steam coming from the sauce.

78. Reheat Only What You Need

Repeatedly warming and refrigerating the same tray hurts quality.

Take out the portion you plan to eat.

Leave the rest cold.

79. Freeze Extra Chicken

If you know the leftovers will not be eaten soon, freeze them.

Include some sauce.

Use freezer-safe containers.

Label and date them.

80. Thaw Safely

Thaw frozen chicken in the refrigerator or use another safe method.

Do not leave it sitting at room temperature for hours.

81. Don’t Eat Chicken That Smells Wrong

If cooked chicken develops an unpleasant sour or rotten smell, discard it.

But remember that smell alone does not guarantee safety.

Storage time and temperature matter too.

82. Don’t Keep It Forever

Leftovers have a limited refrigerated life.

Use them in a reasonable period or freeze them earlier.

When in doubt, throw them out.

83. Photograph the Raw Seasoned Chicken

If you’re documenting the recipe, this is one of the most useful images.

Show how heavily and evenly the chicken is seasoned before baking.

Readers want to see what the marinade should look like.

84. Photograph the Fresh Herbs and Aromatics

Onion.

Scallion.

Thyme.

Garlic.

Ginger.

Pepper.

These images communicate flavor before the chicken ever goes into the oven.

85. Photograph the Chicken Going Into the Pan

Show the arrangement.

Skin side up.

Onions underneath.

Seasoning clinging to the pieces.

A little liquid at the bottom.

This helps readers understand the setup.

86. Photograph It Halfway Through

A halfway photo can show the juices beginning to collect and the exterior starting to color.

This makes the transformation more interesting.

87. Photograph the Final Browning

This is the hero shot.

Deep color.

Glossy juices.

Herbs.

Edges slightly caramelized.

Make the chicken look as good as it tasted.

88. Cut Into a Piece

A beautiful exterior is not enough.

Show the inside.

Let readers see moist meat.

Juices.

Tender texture.

That image proves the title.

89. Show It Pulling Apart

If the chicken is truly tender, photograph a fork pulling the meat away from the bone.

Action sells the texture better than words.

90. Spoon Sauce Over It for the Photo

A small spoonful of pan juice makes the surface shine.

Do not flood the plate.

You want juicy chicken, not chicken swimming in gravy.

91. Photograph the Full Dinner

Put the chicken beside the rice, vegetables, plantain, or whatever you actually ate.

The full meal tells a better story than a tray of isolated chicken pieces.

92. Don’t Overstage It

Real food looks better when it still feels edible.

A little sauce.

A piece cut open.

Steam.

A fork.

A real dinner plate.

Those details can be more persuasive than a perfectly untouched display.

93. Dark Meat Is Your Friend for Ultra-Tender Chicken

If tenderness is the absolute priority, thighs and drumsticks give you more room for error.

Their fat and connective tissue help protect them from drying out.

They also develop rich flavor during longer cooking.

94. Skin-On Chicken Adds Flavor

Chicken skin releases fat and protects the meat.

It can also become beautifully browned.

If you do not eat the skin, you can still cook with it and remove it later.

95. Skinless Chicken Can Still Be Tender

If using skinless pieces, give them more protection.

Marinade.

Moisture.

Covering.

Sauce.

Careful temperature control.

Without skin, the surface dries faster.

96. Do Not Confuse Tender With Undercooked

Chicken can look juicy and still be undercooked.

Always verify doneness.

Pink color can sometimes remain near bones even in safely cooked poultry, which is why temperature is more reliable than appearance alone.

97. Do Not Confuse Dry With Safe

Cooking chicken until it becomes sawdust does not make dinner better.

Reach the safe temperature.

Then stop.

98. Resting Makes a Difference

If you ignore almost everything else, remember this:

Season well.

Cook to the correct temperature.

Rest the chicken.

Those three things alone solve many baked chicken problems.

99. The Pan Juices Are Part of the Recipe

Do not throw them away automatically.

Those juices contain chicken flavor, seasoning, aromatics, and fat.

Skim if necessary.

Reduce if necessary.

Taste.

Then use them.

100. The Goal Is Moisture Plus Flavor

Ultra-tender chicken is not achieved through one magical seasoning.

It comes from managing moisture.

Seasoning early.

Using the right cut.

Controlling oven temperature.

Protecting the chicken during part of the bake.

Stopping at the right time.

Resting.

And using the pan juices.

My Basic Ultra-Tender Baked Chicken Formula

For a deeply seasoned baked chicken, I like a combination of:

Chicken pieces

Salt

Black pepper

Garlic

Onion

Scallion

Fresh thyme

Ginger

Paprika

A little allspice

Scotch bonnet to taste

A small amount of oil

A splash of water or chicken broth

Optional additions can include soy sauce, Worcestershire sauce, lime, coconut milk, or a little butter depending on the flavor direction.

Pat the chicken dry.

Season every side thoroughly.

Work some seasoning underneath the skin if using skin-on pieces.

Cover and refrigerate to marinate.

When ready to bake, place onion, scallion, garlic, thyme, and other aromatics in the baking dish.

Arrange the chicken on top with skin facing upward.

Add a small amount of liquid around the chicken.

Cover and bake gently during the first stage.

Then uncover and continue baking until the exterior becomes richly browned and the chicken reaches a safe internal temperature of at least 165°F or 74°C.

Dark meat can be cooked somewhat beyond the minimum when needed for the tenderness you prefer.

Remove the chicken.

Let it rest.

Taste and adjust the pan juices.

Spoon a little over the top.

Then serve.

What Makes This Chicken So Tender?

It is not one secret ingredient.

It is the combination of several small decisions.

Seasoning the meat ahead of time gives flavor time to penetrate.

Bone-in dark meat provides natural richness.

A little liquid in the pan prevents the environment from becoming completely dry.

Covering the dish during part of the bake traps moisture.

Uncovering later gives you browning.

A thermometer prevents you from guessing.

Resting keeps more juice where it belongs.

And spooning the seasoned pan juices over the finished chicken brings everything together.

The result is chicken that does not need to hide under a mountain of sauce to taste good.

The meat itself is seasoned.

The inside stays juicy.

The edges carry concentrated flavor.

And when the fork goes in, it should feel like the chicken has very little interest in staying attached to the bone.

That is exactly the kind of baked chicken worth making again.

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